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A new report in The New York Times takes a deep dive into Project Esther, a policy blueprint to crush the pro-Palestinian movement in the United States from the Heritage Foundation, the right-wing think tank best known for spearheading Project 2025. Project Esther was formed during the Biden administration and lays out plans for surveilling, silencing and punishing pro-Palestinian activists, including deporting non-U.S. citizens and withholding funds from universities. Many of the Heritage Foundation’s proposals appear to have been taken up by the Trump administration.
“Project Esther aims to rebrand all critics of Israel and pro-Palestinian protesters as providing material support for terrorism,” says investigative reporter Katie Baker. “They’re very explicit that this is what they’re doing. … This is all laid out online, and it has been for months.”
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AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report.
We turn now to a new report in The New York Times that takes a deep dive into Project Esther, a policy blueprint from the far-right Heritage Foundation, best known for creating Project 2025. Project Esther was launched October 7th, 2024, and lays out plans for surveilling, silencing and punishing pro-Palestinian activists, including deporting non-U.S. citizens.
New York Times investigative reporter Katie J.M. Baker spoke to the people behind Project Esther for her new piece, “The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian Movement.” Katie joins us now to explain.
Welcome to Democracy Now! It’s great to have you with us. What did you find?
KATIE J.M. BAKER: Thanks so much for having me.
Yeah, so, I found that the architect behind Project Esther said that it’s no coincidence that what we’re seeing in terms of actions taken against universities and pro-Palestinian protesters on a federal, state and local level is happening months after they released their report.
AMY GOODMAN: So, The Forward had originally talked about this kind of white paper of the Heritage Foundation, but you went much further. You named names and talked to people behind Project Esther. Tell us who they are.
KATIE J.M. BAKER: Yeah, so, the woman overseeing Project Esther is Victoria Coates. She is a former national security adviser to Trump during his first administration, and she has a long history of working on Israeli matters. And then, Robert Greenway ran the Abraham Accords, and he’s one of the co-authors of Project Esther.
AMY GOODMAN: And if you can talk about what exactly their plans are? And how many Jewish groups are involved in shaping Project Esther, as they talk about — as the leaders of Project Esther talk about combating antisemitism?
KATIE J.M. BAKER: Yeah, so, Project Esther aims to rebrand all critics of Israel and pro-Palestinian protesters as providing material support for terrorism. So that means that anyone who’s ever participated in a pro-Palestinian protest at a university, for example, is potentially providing material support and should be fired or deported or otherwise ostracized from what they call open society. And there’s not very many Jewish groups involved in this project. There are a few, but the task force that inspired Project Esther was primarily Christian and right-wing organizations.
AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk about the role of Christian Zionists?
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